From: Dave Brown Date: 07:25 on 30 Jan 2008 Subject: A note to Firefox Dear Firefox, Ctrl+Q means Quit Application. No, you're not so important that you get to be the only application in the world which doesn't have a Quit keyboard shortcut. No love, --Dave
From: numien Date: 07:47 on 30 Jan 2008 Subject: Re: A note to Firefox Dave Brown wrote: > Dear Firefox, > > Ctrl+Q means Quit Application. No, you're not so important that > you get to be the only application in the world which doesn't have > a Quit keyboard shortcut. > > No love, > --Dave But Firefox is so amazing, why would you ever want to leave? At least it isn't one of the (blessedly few) applications which think Ctrl-X means Exit.
From: christian Date: 08:35 on 30 Jan 2008 Subject: Re: A note to Firefox > Dave Brown wrote: > But Firefox is so amazing, why would you ever want to leave? > > At least it isn't one of the (blessedly few) applications which think > Ctrl-X means Exit. It's time for Shortcut Hate! Today: Ctrl-W! Firefox: "Close window". Generic Unix: "Delete word at cursor left" Webmail is hateful by itself, but Firefox suddenly disappearing after writing an elaborate, fuming hate is apocalyptically hateful. This is my third attempt to write this hate. Christian
From: peter f miller Date: 10:56 on 30 Jan 2008 Subject: Re: A note to Firefox ------=_Part_19020_1599559.1201690592076 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > Webmail is hateful by itself, but Firefox suddenly disappearing after > writing an elaborate, fuming hate is apocalyptically hateful. > > This is my third attempt to write this hate. At least some webmail is less hateful than others. Gmail won't let you close the window accidentally if you are working on an unsaved draft, it pops up a message to confirm that you want to lose what you typed. ------=_Part_19020_1599559.1201690592076 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Webmail is hateful by itself, but Firefox suddenly disappearing after<br> writing an elaborate, fuming hate is apocalyptically hateful.<br><br>This is my third attempt to write this hate.</blockquote><div><br>At least some webmail is less hateful than others. Gmail won't let you close the window accidentally if you are working on an unsaved draft, it pops up a message to confirm that you want to lose what you typed.<br> </div></div> ------=_Part_19020_1599559.1201690592076--
From: H.Merijn Brand Date: 08:05 on 30 Jan 2008 Subject: Re: A note to Firefox On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:25:37 +0900, Dave Brown <dagbrown@xxxx.xx> wrote: > Dear Firefox, > > Ctrl+Q means Quit Application. It takes a lot of tuits to get that key-combo *removed* from applications. Luckily I manage with Opera to get that key combo disabled. I *HATE* that sequence. Quit application is Alt-F4, even on windows. > No, you're not so important that you get to be the only application in > the world which doesn't have a Quit keyboard shortcut. None at all? That they do not use Ctrl-Q is a pro for FF. > No love,
From: Jonathan Stowe Date: 09:52 on 30 Jan 2008 Subject: Re: A note to Firefox On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 09:05 +0100, H.Merijn Brand wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:25:37 +0900, Dave Brown <dagbrown@xxxx.xx> wrote: > > > Dear Firefox, > > > > Ctrl+Q means Quit Application. > > It takes a lot of tuits to get that key-combo *removed* from applications. > Luckily I manage with Opera to get that key combo disabled. I *HATE* that > sequence. Quit application is Alt-F4, even on windows. > It predates Windows IIRC - being part of the IBM's CUA (Common User Access) specification, which in turn was part of SAA which was designed to be implemented across the whole range of computers from PCs to Mainframes. /J\
From: Jan Martin Mathiassen Date: 23:45 on 30 Jan 2008 Subject: Re: A note to Firefox On Wed, January 30, 2008 08:47, numien@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > Dave Brown wrote: > But Firefox is so amazing, why would you ever want to leave? I would want to leave because firefox is so amazing, that once in a while it'll suddenly decide to use up all available CPU on one of my cores, until I figure out which article I opened up a week ago or whatever it is that causes it, and close it. Or, I can of course just kill it and tell i= t to resume the session. Or I can live with firefox being slower than a politician at thinking. Amazing indeed. > At least it isn't one of the (blessedly few) applications which think > Ctrl-X means Exit. If it had, then I'm hoping there would be a way to run patch -p0 < arrrrrrrgh_remove_this_damned_idiotic_idea_of_ctrl-x_being_exit_from_fire= fox_v0.1.patch
From: Michael G Schwern Date: 01:51 on 31 Jan 2008 Subject: Re: A note to Firefox Jan Martin Mathiassen wrote: > On Wed, January 30, 2008 08:47, numien@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: >> Dave Brown wrote: >> But Firefox is so amazing, why would you ever want to leave? > > I would want to leave because firefox is so amazing, that once in a while > it'll suddenly decide to use up all available CPU on one of my cores, > until I figure out which article I opened up a week ago or whatever it is > that causes it, and close it. Or, I can of course just kill it and tell it > to resume the session. Or I can live with firefox being slower than a > politician at thinking. FWIW I've addressed the issue of Firefox getting slower and slower and slower by turning off most of my rather large set of add ons and then turning them on a few at a time until I've found the culprit. In the process I've also found out what I do and do not actually use and thrown a bunch of stuff out. Of course, it is hateful that I have to go through this manual process to find out what's making FF sluggish and especially that I have to restart FF to turn a plugin on or off. It's reminiscent of MacOS 9 style OS extension management.
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